tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post205814274976419264..comments2024-02-10T18:19:36.406-08:00Comments on Newspaper Rock: Showband criticism reaches Irish pressRobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01478763837213733775noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-15337797577466743042011-07-06T03:28:11.138-07:002011-07-06T03:28:11.138-07:00Having read several postings and the related comme...Having read several postings and the related comments, I haven't seen a single resident of Ireland criticize the "Indians" showband. I'm sure these people exist, but I haven't seen them yet.<br /><br />I've criticized a lot of stereotypical things that are less noteworthy than this band, Nils. And I don't get angry, I get even.<br /><br />"People who in no way affect your life, culture, heritage or value"? Wrong. T. said it perfectly when she wrote, "These stereotypes are part of what keeps real Native people and their continuing oppression from being taken seriously."<br /><br />For more on the subject, see <a href="http://www.bluecorncomics.com/stharm.htm" rel="nofollow">The Harm of Native Stereotyping: Facts and Evidence</a>.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01478763837213733775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-14692787128325441352011-07-04T16:19:47.157-07:002011-07-04T16:19:47.157-07:00And fitting with #4 above, they all use canoes, li...And fitting with #4 above, they all use canoes, live in tipis, have big feather head-dresses, and have totem poles.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-12302787964424264012011-07-04T07:58:43.202-07:002011-07-04T07:58:43.202-07:00So glad they're feeling the pressure. If they ...So glad they're feeling the pressure. If they were wearing blackface, surely people would see the problem?<br /><br />Nils,the article specifies that actual Native Americans are offended by this act. It's not just a joke. The US and Europe are full of people who still believe the following stupid things about Native Americans: <br /><br />--they don't even exist anymore --they are all lazy drunks <br />--they are all rich on casino money<br />--they all receive a mysterious monthly check just for being Native <br />--they are all members of Plains horse nations<br />--they are soopaspirtchul people who want to tell you what your "power animal" is and give you an "Indian name"<br /><br />These stereotypes are part of what keeps real Native people and their continuing oppression from being taken seriously. They are a big part of why it's considered so acceptable for the white majority to mock Natives, pervert their religions, and beat and rape them at a rate far higher at the rates at which other races are beaten and raped. <br /><br />And these beliefs hurt the oppressors, too. Stupid white people who think anything Native is spiritual and cool were dying in fake in sweat lodges long before Jas. Arther Ray came along.T. Laurel Sulfatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08402062885579362223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-41698706204484480142011-07-04T06:04:12.059-07:002011-07-04T06:04:12.059-07:00So it's not cool to dress up like native ameri...So it's not cool to dress up like native americans on stage but it's cool to mock a whole nation of people because of one band? <br /><br />I'm a member of Sami people in Scandinavia and we've been through similar oppression as you native Americans. There are still lots of stereotypical Sami people on tv in Finland, Sweden and Norway, but guess what? We know EVERYONE knows it's a joke. <br /><br />You are getting angry about people who in no way affect your life, culture, heritage or value. You are just making yourself look bad by getting upset.Nilsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-49567051886394377852011-07-03T19:56:13.714-07:002011-07-03T19:56:13.714-07:00Actually, I'm all for the "disbanding&quo...Actually, I'm all for the "disbanding" of the Irish "injun" showboaters, if nothing else. Discontinuing the usage of Native gimmick isn't good enough. That would be like disrobing their costumes but still taking up Native stage names. <br /><br />Disintegrate altogether and bury their hatchets.Shadow Wolfnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-20207430050289356732011-07-03T06:22:04.244-07:002011-07-03T06:22:04.244-07:00Disband , no. Discontinue use of names of great Am...Disband , no. Discontinue use of names of great American NDN chiefs, discontinue use of native costumes and drop song Squaws along the Yukon which is offensive to native women. This group is native AmericanRon Terrellnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-42974381594798327792011-07-02T17:53:45.943-07:002011-07-02T17:53:45.943-07:00no doubt you are making a point by referring to th...no doubt you are making a point by referring to the supporters of this band as "the Irish" as if all Irish do, but really such generalisations are not helpful. There are plenty of Irish and people of Irish descent who do not support this.just another bloody micknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-12743991505402526182011-07-02T15:34:53.205-07:002011-07-02T15:34:53.205-07:00From the criticism I saw, nobody was suggesting th...From the criticism I saw, nobody was suggesting they disband - just give up the "Indian" gimmick. If they are any good as a showband their music would still appeal.jainehttp://www.alivenotdead.com/jainenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-11576007711878338292011-07-02T04:49:21.340-07:002011-07-02T04:49:21.340-07:00That's awesome. Quick too. It'll be intere...That's awesome. Quick too. It'll be interesting to see if this thing gets legs. Crossing fingers.nonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15902970183089919383noreply@blogger.com