tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post8270391617932740476..comments2024-02-10T18:19:36.406-08:00Comments on Newspaper Rock: Anthropology students dressed as "Indians"Robhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01478763837213733775noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-6571183398892858772014-07-07T18:39:23.182-07:002014-07-07T18:39:23.182-07:00Because you don't like my arguments, that disc...Because you don't like my arguments, that discredits <i>me</i>? Even though you can't offer a shred of a counterargument? Wow.<br /><br />Who the hell cares how you <i>feel</i> about this? We've stated why this stunt was wrong. Either address our arguments or admit you can't.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01478763837213733775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-18000603507448465412014-05-14T06:11:29.975-07:002014-05-14T06:11:29.975-07:00There's absolutely nothing racist about this. ...There's absolutely nothing racist about this. I find your accusations unwarranted and distasteful, and that automatically discredits you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-4675774037190697522013-07-05T06:41:37.041-07:002013-07-05T06:41:37.041-07:00FYI, activists like me have criticized hipsters in...FYI, activists like me have criticized hipsters in headdresses at Coachella and hundreds of other places. If you think this posting is exceptional or even unusual, you're sadly mistaken. Read my near-constant trashing of <a href="http://newspaperrock.bluecorncomics.com/search/label/stereotypes" rel="nofollow">Native stereotypes</a> to see how often these problems occur.<br /><br />The issue isn't our feelings: whether we're offended or not. Nor is it the girls' feelings: whether they thought they were hurting anyone or not. The issue is whether the costumes are stereotypical...period. If you can answer that question with a simple yes or no, you'll have it in a nutshell.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01478763837213733775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-70165261866674000772013-06-26T14:25:28.525-07:002013-06-26T14:25:28.525-07:00The costumes are stereotypical, JHinton. They def...The costumes are stereotypical, JHinton. They define Natives as primitive people of the past. And since they're particular to one race, they're racist as well.<br /><br />Your Canadian example is also stereotypical. But Canadians are a nation, not a race. And Canadians as hockey players is a neutral rather than negative characterization. <br /><br />More important, Canadians aren't a historically oppressed people. Society isn't using the stereotype to keep them in their place. So your analogy fails for several reasons.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01478763837213733775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-15935886528825522022013-06-26T14:19:17.215-07:002013-06-26T14:19:17.215-07:00I think Deloria believed that Native Americans ori...I think Deloria believed that Native Americans originated here rather than migrating from elsewhere. It was a scientific claim, not a religious one.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01478763837213733775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-36456759156698383002013-06-19T01:24:28.664-07:002013-06-19T01:24:28.664-07:00JHinton said...
"Excuse me if i'm an uned...JHinton said...<br />"Excuse me if i'm an uneducated jerk, but how is this post offensive? If a Native-American or aboriginal put on a hockey sweater and took a picture of themselves with poutine and posted this of facebook saying "ololol look I'm Canadian" I wouldn't be remotely offended, or even care. I just don't understand why this is a big deal."<br /><br /><br />^^^^^<br />You're joking, right?<br />The reason it is offensive is because Native Americans were FORCED to dress like white people. Their cultural heritage was violently taken away from them, it's not about them dressing up in a Canadian jersey for Halloween, it's about choice. They never had a choice. You, however have a choice to *not* put on a ridiculous "native" costume and let what remains of their dying culture be conserved in its sacred state. It is called cultural genocide and the fact that you don't think it's offensive tells me you're a privileged white boy who's never encountered racism in his life.<br />Take your entitlement elsewhere, because yes, you *are* an uneducated jerk.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-53702256641320579452013-06-17T10:13:19.371-07:002013-06-17T10:13:19.371-07:00Wow. Being an anthropology graduate I am ashamed ...Wow. Being an anthropology graduate I am ashamed by this behavior. Seriously? This is the stuff anthropologists try to prevent.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-29657820880156625142013-06-17T00:09:03.346-07:002013-06-17T00:09:03.346-07:00I would not recommend any of you who are offended ...I would not recommend any of you who are offended go to a music festival like "Coachella," because there are people wearing head dresses and Native American garb. I am surprised they even use the term "Indian." Because that in itself is racist.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-58224430720378747582013-06-15T01:38:45.558-07:002013-06-15T01:38:45.558-07:00Seriously? This is offensive? Talk about being o...Seriously? This is offensive? Talk about being overly sensitive. There is literally nothing offensive about what was posted. In no way were natives or native culture being ridiculed. These girls were just dressing up in traditional native garb, because they were at an anthropology party, where probably lots of people were dressed in various ways. Is it offensive to dress as a Roman with a toga? Is it offensive to dress as a knight during medieval times? No. So why is it offensive to dress in traditional North American native style? <br /><br />It would be discriminatory to dress in ways which would highlight any negative stereotypes about natives. But this particular dress does not highlight any negative stereotypes; rather, it is more of a celebration of native culture, if anything. Yet by suggesting that dressing in such a way is offensive, you are essentially suggesting that there is nothing positive about native culture. The very act of being offended by this is discriminatory in itself. People need to grow up and stop treating natives like oversensitive children, but rather like the human beings they are. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-65845613049897111022013-06-14T00:36:27.664-07:002013-06-14T00:36:27.664-07:00I care. I care. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-18461018920069234382013-06-13T22:12:50.132-07:002013-06-13T22:12:50.132-07:00I'm sorry I'm having trouble understanding...I'm sorry I'm having trouble understanding you... what exactly would I find offensive about this if I was an Indian American?JHintonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-40831049710914759902013-06-13T22:01:49.686-07:002013-06-13T22:01:49.686-07:00Out of context , over the top reactions, political...Out of context , over the top reactions, political correctness gone crazing . a simple party photo , is used to inflame a debate , that should never had started . Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-15925447863276853552013-06-13T16:33:50.374-07:002013-06-13T16:33:50.374-07:00White Canadians have never been oppressed by Ameri...White Canadians have never been oppressed by American Indians. A deep history of oppression and dominance had much to do with what's offensive. This understanding is at the core modern anthropology. Lay people may not understand this concept, but that these students didn't understand this upon obtaining an anthropology degree speaks volumes about that department and is reminiscent of what anthropology hasn't been for over 150 years.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-27295454762722789062013-06-13T14:58:19.130-07:002013-06-13T14:58:19.130-07:00There's another problem, that would have made ...There's another problem, that would have made this situation worse if the girls had thought in this manner. Many people dress up in a "costume" in order to resemble or display some form of a Native trait. But too many people think that these "costumes" are the same thing as historically and spiritually accurate traditional regalia. That is what I truly find absurd.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-39206980711976652022013-06-13T09:22:54.099-07:002013-06-13T09:22:54.099-07:00let me say from a purely male frame of reference: ...let me say from a purely male frame of reference: you're an ignorant pig and nobody here cares what gives you a boner.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-35359900178907210182013-06-13T08:00:32.366-07:002013-06-13T08:00:32.366-07:00Think of how the cowboys feel. Think of how the cowboys feel. Cristinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11780373935082249796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-54127146673207826492013-06-13T07:45:55.921-07:002013-06-13T07:45:55.921-07:00Just because you wouldn't be offended doesn...Just because you wouldn't be offended doesn't mean that others wouldn't be offended. Not everyone is or feels the same way. <br />I think it's very hard for some white people to understand how deep racism is ingrained in society and how deeply it hurts those who are and have been subject of it for hundreds of years. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-47574566700846985672013-06-13T07:27:04.003-07:002013-06-13T07:27:04.003-07:00Excuse me if i'm an uneducated jerk, but how i...Excuse me if i'm an uneducated jerk, but how is this post offensive? If a Native-American or aboriginal put on a hockey sweater and took a picture of themselves with poutine and posted this of facebook saying "ololol look I'm Canadian" I wouldn't be remotely offended, or even care. I just don't understand why this is a big deal. JHintonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-39242544154410562182013-06-12T11:19:22.790-07:002013-06-12T11:19:22.790-07:00I am glad we have to take Political Science in col...I am glad we have to take Political Science in college. Critical thinking classes, period. As an Anthro major, I get a chance to put it to use from a cultural perspective. From colonization on, Native Americans have been objectified, invalidated, eradicated, lied to, cheated, and basically treated like shit. Such rich mythology and beliefs - and knowledge of the land!! The sooner we stop being ethnocentric and realize that EVERYONE and EVERY CULTURE bring a unique spice to the gumbo, the better. These girls weren't the only ones dressed up at that party. The rebutting gentleman was right on it by addressing the issue, not the girls.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-79618696139521355262013-06-10T21:06:56.759-07:002013-06-10T21:06:56.759-07:00I know it's a hotbed of debate but just let me...I know it's a hotbed of debate but just let me say that from a purely male frame of reference: "Shorty's be lookin FINE! Sorry but better this than whatever Lady Gaga's wearing right now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-43790278379128021782013-06-10T20:29:50.813-07:002013-06-10T20:29:50.813-07:00To the person who asked if anyone was bleeding or ...To the person who asked if anyone was bleeding or I anyone was offended-Obviously, people were offended! And, may I add, people can and do bleed on the inside. It's called bullying, by the way. What if someone had a party and everyone was in black-face kind of costumes? Personally, I'm offended! You have set back the progress of those of us that are trying to repair the damage and atone for it. May I ask, Is your head up your rear? Think next time you try to throw a themed party!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-16823016585510764842013-06-10T20:28:52.773-07:002013-06-10T20:28:52.773-07:00I belive that the pilgrims are THE FRIST illegal ...I belive that the pilgrims are THE FRIST illegal immigrants here!<br /> <br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07281132361470475663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-66028233022549630102013-06-09T05:20:36.995-07:002013-06-09T05:20:36.995-07:00Velikovsky??? That is like saying that someone bel...Velikovsky??? That is like saying that someone believes the Earth is still flat. I had no idea that the Vine was bearing some truly nutty fruit.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-17014372471478081402013-06-08T20:51:21.710-07:002013-06-08T20:51:21.710-07:00Thanks for circulating this because all of the pos...Thanks for circulating this because all of the posts/images from Facebook have been removed which is a shame because burying the issue does nothing to address itAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-59710363785885476672013-06-08T12:14:25.068-07:002013-06-08T12:14:25.068-07:00The big problem with Deloria is that he went head-...The big problem with Deloria is that he went head-on into Velikovsky, a practice I now call "brinking". (That is, to associate a fringe theory with anticolonialism, named for Anthony Brink.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com