tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post9179029516126593230..comments2024-02-10T18:19:36.406-08:00Comments on Newspaper Rock: Irish children abused tooRobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01478763837213733775noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-60562380420161457772009-06-26T21:31:08.838-07:002009-06-26T21:31:08.838-07:00Re "In reality religion had very little to do...Re "In reality religion had very little to do with": Learn to read, Stephen. I didn't say Northern Ireland was an example of Christians attacking other Christians for religious reasons. I said it was an example of Christians attacking other Christians for <i>political</i> reasons. Your stupid mistake if you missed the phrase "political reasons" in the previous sentence.<br /><br />Re "Also [if] hitler was a christian please explain these quotes": In the first quote, Hitler doesn't explicitly say he isn't a Christian. In the second quote, he implicitly admits he <i>is</i> a Christian. He may resent aspects of Christianity, but he talks as if it's <i>his</i> religion.<br /><br />Since your egotistical sense of superiority knows no bounds, <i>you</i> explain the following Hitler quotes:<br /><br />"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord." (<i>Mein Kampf</i>, Volume 1, Chapter II)<br /><br />"My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter." (Speech delivered April 12, 1922)<br /><br />Good luck with your answers, lightweight...you'll need it.<br /><br />For more on Hitler's religious background, see <a href="http://www.bluecorncomics.com/hitler.htm" rel="nofollow">Adolf Hitler: A True American</a>.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01478763837213733775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-62642221888580289062009-05-22T00:40:58.925-07:002009-05-22T00:40:58.925-07:00Whoah.....Whoah.....Stephennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-25527773659580644092009-05-22T00:30:53.804-07:002009-05-22T00:30:53.804-07:00Why I have a problem with my early Catholic upbrin...Why I have a problem with my early Catholic upbringing -<br /><br />Has anyone here ever seen a middle-aged nun punch a pre-teen male in the stomach with a rosary wrapped around her hand like a set of knucks or slap his face so hard that he's almost knocked out or kick him so violently in the testicles that he's bent over in pain and then she karate chops the back of his neck and he hits the blacktop like a watermelon?<br /><br />Or you're a ten-year old Indian kid whose mistaken for Mexican by a bull-necked priest who likes little brown boys and this fucker drools everytime he sees you? And sometimes he even grabs your arm as you walk by and he stares crazily into your eyes, the yellowed orbs glowing with the fires of barely restrained lust?<br /><br />Or sometimes he grabs you by both arms on your way to class and won't let you go as he pulls your face close to his and his breath reeks like dogshit and he laughingly inquires repeatedly: "What's wrong with you? What's wrong with you? What's wrong with you?"<br /><br />Ask me about it sometime...Melvin Martinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-76564197519867154872009-05-21T14:43:45.578-07:002009-05-21T14:43:45.578-07:00One more thing, that pic of the kid with the celti...One more thing, that pic of the kid with the celtic cross tat is a mite stereotypical.Stephennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-45234985010809026472009-05-21T14:42:43.100-07:002009-05-21T14:42:43.100-07:00Also getting back to sectarianism if you do some r...Also getting back to sectarianism if you do some research you'll find it started with the british divide 'n conquer strategy; prior to that cultural genocide was exercised against catholics and presbyterians in the form of the penal laws. NI terrorist groups - the UDA, UVF, IRA, INLA and so on - were very secular (the IRA was very marxist just read Eire Nua) so like I said it wasn't really about religion.Stephennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-85214356341814451122009-05-21T13:21:55.961-07:002009-05-21T13:21:55.961-07:00I don't think it's that borderline, since the "boa...I don't think it's that borderline, since the "boarding school abuse" subject, in my reading, is usually about Natives. So here's another example with a lot of parallels.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-91096834396221023482009-05-21T12:56:48.386-07:002009-05-21T12:56:48.386-07:00Of course Rob isn't exactly very informed about Ir...Of course Rob isn't exactly very informed about Ireland, for example:<br /><br />"And Adams didn't hypothesize the other possibility: that Hitler attacked Christianity and Christians for political reasons. Don't think that's possible in a Christian country? Look at the battles between Catholics and Protestants in Northern Ireland."<br /><br />In reality religion had very little to do with (it was normally just used to justify hate crimes Paisley's speeches are an example of that) sectarian catholics hated protestants because of the discriminatory NI government (gerrymandering and so on). Whereas protestants looked down on catholics the same way members of the KKK looked down on blacks, some also blamed republican atrocities (ie the enniskillen bombing) on the catholic community in general. Watch the documentaries 'loyalists' and 'provos' you'll find that the people who joined such terrorist groups were not motivated by religion. It's more accurate to describe the conflict as loyalist vs. republican. Also it's hitler was a christian please explain these quotes:<br /><br />"One can either be a christian or a german one can't be both."<br /><br />"You see, it’s been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn’t we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?"<br /><br />But carry on with this delusion that you're informed and educated Rob, it's highly amusing. And in case I didn't make myself clearly I absolutely condemn this case of abuse, it's goram stomach churning.Stephennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-67499277190299143822009-05-21T12:42:28.321-07:002009-05-21T12:42:28.321-07:00"I suspect he'll tell us that all cultures have ch..."I suspect he'll tell us that all cultures have child abuse, so "it's a bit unfair" to single out the Irish."<br /><br />That's not what I was going to say at all, I don't think this counts a s 'singling out the Irish' on the contrary this greatly angers me.<br /><br />"I think everyone would agree that no child should endure such things no matter what culture or race they come from... even Stephen."<br /><br />Of course I agree with this, but it's also worth pointing out that this sort of thing is not at limited to Catholic schools.<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kincora_Boys'_Home<br /><br />One of the residents of kincora was Michael Stone who went on to become a loyalist terrorist. I'm not defending the church (unlike most of my relatives I'm not catholic) simply pointing out a lesser known scandal.Stephennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-81176811918101627112009-05-21T12:01:32.848-07:002009-05-21T12:01:32.848-07:00Hummm. I saw this a few days back and have known a...Hummm. I saw this a few days back and have known about it for a time to a lesser degree. I think everyone would agree that no child should endure such things no matter what culture or race they come from... even Stephen. And yes, what happens and has happened to Native American children along these lines should be taken very serriously with equal concern. I think the children being Irish here is more a point of fact and location, than singling out.Ananda girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09578471199205376974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-3169534532899989402009-05-21T10:58:18.394-07:002009-05-21T10:58:18.394-07:00Including this item was borderline, since there's ...Including this item was borderline, since there's no direct Native connection. Posting the <A HREF="http://www.bluecorncomics.com/2009/05/residential-school-comic-book-videos.html" REL="nofollow">residential-school videos</A> item the same day tipped the scales in its favor.<br /><br />I await Stephen's response to this posting. I suspect he'll tell us that all cultures have child abuse, so "it's a bit unfair" to single out the Irish.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01478763837213733775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-11882447618632685092009-05-21T07:49:58.368-07:002009-05-21T07:49:58.368-07:00Good catch. I was thinking of forwarding this one ...Good catch. I was thinking of forwarding this one on to you before I saw you had used it for a post.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.com