tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post1499917643636017834..comments2024-02-10T18:19:36.406-08:00Comments on Newspaper Rock: Racists deny playing race cardRobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01478763837213733775noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-26780820654513370202012-10-23T12:58:45.409-07:002012-10-23T12:58:45.409-07:00It doesn't matter whether Touré's beliefs ...It doesn't matter whether Touré's beliefs are in his own mind only, DMarks. He was explaining how America viewed the Cain scandal. <i>Not</i> how he himself viewed it. <br /><br />There's no way in hell that calling other Americans racist is itself "racist." The accusation may be true or false, but it says nothing about the accuser's beliefs to make it. You remain flatly wrong on that point.<br /><br />More important, Verg Bernero and Touré are about the only examples of "liberal racism" you've offered. In contrast, I've offered dozens of examples of conservative racism. I could offer hundreds more if I wanted to. You lose on that point, badly.<br /><br />Few if any corporations are "liberal," since they're dominated by conservative executives, boards, and shareholders. I've explored the "Myth of the Liberal Myth" at length in the aforementioned posting. Until you can challenge the claims in that posting, you lose on this point too.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01478763837213733775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-50879060065623969812012-09-13T06:47:07.527-07:002012-09-13T06:47:07.527-07:00Toure was raising something that existed in his mi...Toure was raising something that existed in his mind only. He was bashing Cain while slyly trying to shift it to others. It did not work. <br /><br />The liberal media is reality, when you look at most TV news organizations. Some on the hard left don't like it that some leftist media outlets aren't as left-wing as they are, so they claim that these leftist media outlets aren't liberal. And this is where the problem comes in.<br /><br />" conservative corporations ultimately decide what appears in print or on the air."<br /><br />In the case of liberal corporations, they decided what appears in print or on the air for the liberal media. dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-73991503545417181212012-09-13T05:50:48.879-07:002012-09-13T05:50:48.879-07:00The "liberal media" is a myth, as I'...The "liberal media" is a myth, as I've discussed in <a href="http://www.bluecorncomics.com/libmedia.htm" rel="nofollow">The Myth of the Liberal Media</a>. Journalists may skew liberal, but conservative corporations ultimately decide what appears in print or on the air.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01478763837213733775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-64496251627657597732012-09-13T05:44:08.673-07:002012-09-13T05:44:08.673-07:00Your claims about what Touré said are still false,...Your claims about what Touré said are still false, DMarks. He was talking about Herman Cain's racist appeal, not making a racist appeal of his own. Here are the facts:<br /><br />http://www.mediaite.com/tv/toure-cain-scandal-feeds-off-instinctual-fear-of-black-men-being-dominating-with-white-women/<br /><br />And your inability to cite more than one year-old example is a mark of how prejudiced liberals <i>aren't</i>. In contrast, I could find dozens of examples of conservative racism in the last year alone.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01478763837213733775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-51685279871144024102012-09-08T11:30:34.790-07:002012-09-08T11:30:34.790-07:00I love that image, only because it's so racist...I love that image, only because it's so racist that it's not even anywhere close to geographically correct. That particular chieftain is from Papua New Guinea. I'll put it as a new level of "Teabonics", which is defined as "when you think Mexicans should leave if they don't speak American gooder".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-22256004750823514002012-09-04T10:20:41.042-07:002012-09-04T10:20:41.042-07:00"It's actually pretty racist of d to assu..."It's actually pretty racist of d to assume all Blacks are automatically leftist."<br /><br />I never said they were. I was talking about certain individuals, not generalizing on race.<br /><br />"Also, Bernero is not remotely liberal either."<br /><br />Correction: Bernero is a liberal/left firebrand. He ran on a strongly liberal platform when he ran for governor a couple of years ago. He had appeared a lot as a major talking head on a liberal national TV network.<br /><br />"Left wing racism tends to be either condescending or assuming western civilization is the only true civilization. Right wing is all that, plus violence and extermination and race baiting."<br /><br />Left wing racism includes that too. Very much so. One recent example of race bating was leftist journalist "Toure" bashing Herman Cain as being a typical black sexual predator. Left wing racists have killed more people over their race or ethnicity than right wing ones have. Far more, in fact.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-1780053966629877462012-09-04T10:17:31.448-07:002012-09-04T10:17:31.448-07:00"Explain how DW Griffith was a liberal and ho..."Explain how DW Griffith was a liberal and how the populist Rush Limbaugh is a liberal Dmarks?"<br /><br />Why should I? Racism exists on the right as well as the left. That is obvious. It makes no sense to deny that there are racist on the right as it does to deny there are racists on the left.<br /><br />"Explain how you do not see fat Mexican, Black or Native men shout racists obsceneties at women calling them sluts on a national radio program?"<br /><br />You get thin liberals on major national TV stations calling women "c*nts". See Bill Maher.<br /><br />"Explain how you have complete networks of paper, internet and television programming that twist facts and blatantly lie about national policy Dmarks?"<br /><br />Because we have the First Amendment, where people can express their views even if someone consider it "lying". So that is why we get MSNBC doing what you are describing.<br /><br />"Where are your larger than life liberal media in film with Johnny Depp being a full blooded, enrolled traditional native American after Jay Silverheels?"<br /><br />Because most liberals do not care about this issue, just as most conservatives do not.<br /><br />"Where in Hollywoods history, including today, do you not see a push, rationale and glorification for war and right wing patriotism with military reality shows?"<br /><br />So many of these questions are like shooting fish in a barrel. Military reality shows? You are asking where we do not see these? How about "just about all the time"? Shows like "Stars Earn Stripes" are a tiny minority of the shows. If you are arguing that shows like this prove conservative media, then the fact that they are so rare is evidence, in your argument, of liberal media.<br /><br />"Where is this liberal media you keep"<br /><br />The leftist, liberal media dominates TV, for one thing. Where there is only one conservative network, and several liberal ones.<br /><br />"....almighty left wing controlled Federal Communications Corporation"<br /><br />Since the Obama administration controls the FCC, it is in fact left-wing controlled at this time<br /><br />"....that allows an ALL American Indian Channel versus a History Channel"<br /><br />What ARE you smoking? The FCC, right or left, is not in a position to "allow" channels. <br /><br />"Tell us Dmarks, where is a professional and college sports team aired...."<br /><br />Ask the liberals that ignore the issues of Chief Illinewek and Chief Wahoo.<br /><br />"Where is this LIBERAL media?"<br /><br />Turn on the TV. The fact is you are quite confused on this.<br /><br />"And your Obama channels of him being a leftist and liberal is a make believe invention."<br /><br />All I do is look at his record, and ocmpare it to the center of politics. In fact, Obama has one of the most strongly leftwing voting records. This is fact, not my opinion.<br /><br />"All the socialist programs of FDRs ....but now Obama is a socialist?"<br /><br />You have me confused with another, which perhaps might explain why your post is so addled and drifting at times. I have never called Obama a socialist. Left wing, liberal sometimes means socialist. But the two terms do not mean the same thing.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-1936677900623870842012-09-04T10:01:58.391-07:002012-09-04T10:01:58.391-07:00Farrakhan is on the far right, not the left at all...Farrakhan is on the far right, not the left at all. The Nation of Islam did ally itself with the Klan after all, refused to take part in civil rts mvmt, and murdered Malcolm X. It's actually pretty racist of d to assume all Blacks are automatically leftist.<br /><br />Also, Bernero is not remotely liberal either. Left wing racism tends to be either condescending or assuming western civilization is the only true civilization. Right wing is all that, plus violence and extermination and race baiting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-49065272755367902012-09-04T07:16:22.828-07:002012-09-04T07:16:22.828-07:00Explain how DW Griffith was a liberal and how the ...Explain how DW Griffith was a liberal and how the populist Rush Limbaugh is a liberal Dmarks? Explain how you do not see fat Mexican, Black or Native men shout racists obsceneties at women calling them sluts on a national radio program? Explain how you have complete networks of paper, internet and television programming that twist facts and blatantly lie about national policy Dmarks? Where are your larger than life liberal media in film with Johnny Depp being a full blooded, enrolled traditional native American after Jay Silverheels? Where in Hollywoods history, including today, do you not see a push, rationale and glorification for war and right wing patriotism with military reality shows? Where is this liberal media you keep hidden in your secret mental chambers of an almighty left wing controlled Federal Communications Corporation that allows an ALL American Indian Channel versus a History Channel that produces a "America: The Story of Us" where there is not one "liberal" story of a native leader like Geronimo and plight of trying to defend his homeland and his WAY OF LIFE? Tell us Dmarks, where is a professional and college sports team aired weekly that exists where minorities dress up like savage puritians and Christians that kill Indians for your bastard add water, reinvented culture? Where is this LIBERAL media? And your Obama channels of him being a leftist and liberal is a make believe invention. All the socialist programs of FDRs era helped raise and fund your conservative parents and grandparents to be successful people in business, education and housing when minorities were being lynched, jailed or killed, but now Obama is a socialist?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-56689349729912537342012-09-04T05:40:13.311-07:002012-09-04T05:40:13.311-07:00Anon: Measured from the center, Obama is a liberal...Anon: Measured from the center, Obama is a liberal, for sure. He isn't as hard left as many on the hard left want him to be, granted. Then there is his Vice President, another liberal. And one of the houses of Congress, with Harry Reid as the top dog.<br /><br />Anyway, as Obama is a leftist, your "therefore" argument makes less sense.<br /><br />"The ruling conservatives have controlled the media, Hollywood and the government for decades via the religious idiots of America"<br /><br />The only thing this proves is your own religious bigotry. Liberals control most of the media in the US, and most of Hollywood. They control the government in half of the states, and the Federal government half the time... and they do right now.<br /><br />dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-41742970211215893312012-09-03T11:07:23.488-07:002012-09-03T11:07:23.488-07:00Where are the ruling liberals in the media and pol...Where are the ruling liberals in the media and politics Dmarks? Obama? Obama is more centrists and moderate than Republicans want to admit. Therefore, your explanations and accounts for liberal racism is very shallow and pretentious. The ruling conservatives have controlled the media, Hollywood and the government for decades via the religious idiots of America. Reagan, Bush and now Rmoney will use them to attain the Republican votes, just wait and see, but as always, a Republican president will drop the religious agenda as soon as he enterw the Whitehouse.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-8704277887041683062012-09-02T04:58:44.655-07:002012-09-02T04:58:44.655-07:00Overall, Tim Wise's piece is extremely sloppy,...Overall, Tim Wise's piece is extremely sloppy, and makes goofs such as in this paragraph:<br /><br />"So if they call Obama a foreigner..."<br /><br />Most foreigners in the US are not black Africans. No points for Wise.<br /><br />He gets a point on the lyin African one: most Africans are black. He also gets a point on the pimp one.<br /><br />Reagan's welfare queen was real. It is in fact his critics who are being racist, by assuming that all people on welfare are black... when in fact <i>most</i> are white.<br /><br />This is a matter of crying wolf on dog whistles, to the point whenever anyone makes a general criticism of a certain group, if there happens to be a few blacks in this group, this person is accused of being an anti-black racist. People like Wise who do this are certainly not fact-obsessed.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-74285185673466966842012-09-01T10:47:52.442-07:002012-09-01T10:47:52.442-07:00I am not defending racism, so I don't need to ...I am not defending racism, so I don't need to feel any sort of "rationale' for it.<br /><br />And in the example I gave, it was a liberal white person, a member of the ruling class, who was the racist.<br /><br />"You seem to have this mindset that liberal racism equates conservative racism whilst from the get go, there are more superstitious religious racist coming from the right."<br /><br />Aside from your use of "superstitious" likely to mean a religion you don't share, there are indeed major examples of strong religion-based racism on the Left, starting with Minister Farrakhan and his supremacist "Nation of Islam". Or the explicitly racist rantings of Revs' Jackson and Sharpton, both definitely liberals, both definitely having a lot of influence, and both racists.<br /><br />Our own President approved enough of Farrakhan's ideology to travel a long distance to go to a rally to glorify Farrakhan.... In fact, he was an organizer.<br /><br />"Is there such a thing as a conservative athiest? Tell us?"<br /><br />There are indeed conservatives of this religion. Objectivists, Randists, and Libertarians are quite often Atheist. Ayn Rand herself was a devout Atheist, and her most devoted followers tend to choose her faith also.<br /><br />And of course there are liberals of other non-Atheist faiths. Great ones, too. Such as Dr. King, who was very well steeped in the "superstition" you deride, and was all about breaking barriers.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-84621026492459645902012-09-01T10:03:14.212-07:002012-09-01T10:03:14.212-07:00Thats a somewhat watered down rationale for racism...Thats a somewhat watered down rationale for racism Dmarks. It is true that racism exists from all sides in all races, but it so happens that the ruling income class and the ruling systems of authority in the United States with political power, jobs, opportunity and education happen to be conservative Anglo Americans, and it is not because minorities haven't tried, they do, and with few isolated intances, they break the racial barriers. You seem to have this mindset that liberal racism equates conservative racism whilst from the get go, there are more superstitious religious racist coming from the right. Is there such a thing as a conservative athiest? Tell us?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-37062907095240862572012-09-01T04:24:40.564-07:002012-09-01T04:24:40.564-07:00"While only a few conservatives express their..."While only a few conservatives express their racism openly, many of them tolerate racism in their midst. If they're not racists themselves, they're racism enablers, a trivial distinction."<br /><br />True no more and no less of liberals.<br /><br />See <a href="http://www.mlive.com/lansing-news/index.ssf/2012/01/lansing_mayor_virg_bernero_cal_1.html" rel="nofollow">Verg Bernero</a> for just one example.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.com