tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post209059040163119673..comments2024-02-10T18:19:36.406-08:00Comments on Newspaper Rock: Cherokees left homes "willingly"?!Robhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01478763837213733775noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-23134639610170196982008-02-07T11:02:00.000-08:002008-02-07T11:02:00.000-08:00Don't worry...in this blog, you get my opinion whe...Don't worry...in this blog, you get my opinion whether you're "entitled" to it or not. If you don't like it, leave.<BR/><BR/>That's right...keep your postings short and inoffensive so I don't have to delete them again. Here's a hint: You don't get to make claims about me unless you document them. I've documented the cases where you've lied about me, so I get to call you a liar.<BR/><BR/>Do you think you get a prize for your nonresponsive replies that obfuscate the truth? That ignore or deny your own words? Your only "prize" is that you lose the debate...again.<BR/><BR/>You posted your unsubstantiated opinion about the Indian Removal while I posted the facts. If you can't tell the difference, our readers can.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01478763837213733775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-66906371827840743122008-02-07T03:41:00.000-08:002008-02-07T03:41:00.000-08:00Writerfella here -- Fewer words than you used ...Writerfella here --<BR/> Fewer words than you used means that writerfella can say this: somewhere it is written that you are entitled to your opinion. But nowhere is it written that writerfella also is entitled to YOUR opinion!<BR/>All Best<BR/>RussBates<BR/>'writerfella'writerfellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00111681906238053379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-87853028645763346502008-02-06T05:15:00.000-08:002008-02-06T05:15:00.000-08:00Russ, I'm sure I told you I was going to delete yo...Russ, I'm sure I told you I was going to delete your comments if you kept attacking me. Well, here you go. You're deleted for destructive criticism with no redeeming value.<BR/><BR/>You wrote "any and all can see that obfuscation is the last refuge of a true coward!" Yes. Which is an excellent explanation of why you refuse to provide evidence or answer questions. I'm glad you're finally gaining some self-awareness.<BR/><BR/>You wrote "the Chickasaw and Cherokee (as well as the three others of the FCT) came from the South, not the East." They came from the southeast, which is part of the east. Duh.<BR/><BR/>You wrote "Sorry about your case, Rob." There's nothing to be sorry for, since I've proved you to be an idiot who doesn't know the history of his own state. Not that you can demonstrate, anyway.<BR/><BR/>Let us know when you have something to say about your use of the word "willingly," Russ. Until then, I'll conclude you're about as ignorant as you seem.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01478763837213733775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-69710593050720437302008-02-04T13:57:00.000-08:002008-02-04T13:57:00.000-08:00You're "sorry" about what? What the hell are you ...You're "sorry" about what? What the hell are you talking about? Are you fibbing again, or just too addled to read plain English? <BR/><BR/>I never said the Chickasaw were a Plains tribe. Nor did I say anything about the Wichita and other tribes being given their land. In fact, I barely mentioned the Chickasaw, since the Cherokee are the most well-known victims of the Indian Removal.<BR/><BR/>About the only thing I did in this posting was quote your idiotic claim that the Cherokee, Chickasaw, and other tribes left the east "willingly." Stop making up straw-man arguments and start addressing the issue at hand. Or are you too much of an intellectual coward to acknowledge your own words?<BR/><BR/>If anyone can quote me saying what Russ imagines I said, feel free to do so. Otherwise, please join me in saying Russ is a big, fat liar.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01478763837213733775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-84108470527292287622008-02-02T23:07:00.000-08:002008-02-02T23:07:00.000-08:00Writerfella here -- POSTSCRIPTUM -- One only...Writerfella here --<BR/> POSTSCRIPTUM -- One only has to see the current statewide TV commercials here in Oklahoma by the Chicakasaw that pronounce their part of "The Trail Of Tears" as 'the removal' and 'the relocation,' to know how their 'revisionist' history is being accorded...<BR/>All Best<BR/>Russ Bates<BR/>'writerfella'writerfellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00111681906238053379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-56228714849430941842008-02-02T23:02:00.000-08:002008-02-02T23:02:00.000-08:00Writerfella here -- Sorry, Rob, but if you tru...Writerfella here --<BR/> Sorry, Rob, but if you truly consulted the historical record, you would find that the Chickasaws were ceded lands in Indian Territory that later were taken away by the US of A for the settlement of the Wichita, Kiowa, Comanche, and Apache tribes, much to the objection and hatred of the Chickasaws. The Chickasaw lost and, even today, still are trying to re-claim such lands. The Chicakasaw never were a Plains tribe and that is why they lost...<BR/>All Best<BR/>Russ Bates<BR/>'writerfella'writerfellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00111681906238053379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-8590719315903951832008-02-02T06:01:00.000-08:002008-02-02T06:01:00.000-08:00Yes, I didn't catch that right away either. Once ...Yes, I didn't catch that right away either. Once I did, I thought it was worth noting. <BR/><BR/>Russ says he doesn't have a grudge against the five tribes, but it looks like one to me. I suspect his misapprehension of history stems from his animosity or vice versa.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01478763837213733775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-90620686225804427692008-02-01T13:45:00.000-08:002008-02-01T13:45:00.000-08:00Wow, I didn't even catch the "willingly" part. Th...Wow, I didn't even catch the "willingly" part. The only ones who were "willing" were the traitors in the Treaty Party (led by Major Ridge) who signed the fraudulent removal treaty, despite the fact that they had no authority to do. Indeed, the treaty itself was a violation of the written Cherokee Constitution which outlined the boundaries of the nation and specified the death penalty for anyone who gave land to the United States (ironically, Major Ridge was the one who pushed for that provision and later he and his son John Ridge and Elias Boudinot were assassinated by the Nighthawk Society)The Local Crankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16673363936902590966noreply@blogger.com