tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post3433400184997211590..comments2024-02-10T18:19:36.406-08:00Comments on Newspaper Rock: Bear-baiting and death-dealingRobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01478763837213733775noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-69185470589125058882008-03-07T11:39:00.000-08:002008-03-07T11:39:00.000-08:00I judge a show on the totality of its merits, not ...I judge a show on the totality of its merits, not just on whether it's stereotypical or not. My 6.5 rating means it's significantly flawed and mediocre at best.<BR/><BR/>If I considered <I>Comanche Moon</I> unwatchable, I'd give it a rating of 5.0 or lower. Since I watched it to the end, I can't claim it was that bad.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01478763837213733775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-65686485737410226272008-02-08T06:29:00.000-08:002008-02-08T06:29:00.000-08:00That was an interesting review. I tried to watch ...That was an interesting review. I tried to watch the first part of the series but I couldn't get though 5 minutes without cringing. It reminded me of why I normally don't watch westerns. <BR/>I did have one issue though with your review and that was the ratings. Like i said, I did not watch the whole thing but those ratings seemed far too high. I would have put it closer to 3 or 4.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-38909192459446321932008-01-30T03:34:00.000-08:002008-01-30T03:34:00.000-08:00The words came from me because you don't write cle...The words came from me because you don't write clearly and won't answer simple questions when they're put to you. In fact, you still haven't answered the question I asked, so I'll try again. Was <I>Comanche Moon</I> riddled with stereotypes: yes or no?<BR/><BR/>Yeah, I gave <A HREF="http://www.bluecorncomics.com/2007/05/review-of-imprint.html" REL="nofollow"><I>Imprint</I></A> and <A HREF="http://www.bluecorncomics.com/2007/12/review-of-four-sheets-to-wind.html" REL="nofollow"><I>Four Sheets to the Wind</I></A> an 8.5 of 10 because I never say anything positive. I raved about <A HREF="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IndianComicsIrregular/message/131" REL="nofollow">COMANCHE MOON</A> and <A HREF="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IndianComicsIrregular/message/106" REL="nofollow">CLOVERLEAF</A> because I never say anything positive. Stupid.<BR/><BR/>I've initiated my own comic book, thanks, along with several short stories and novels. Are you seriously arguing that writing some two-bit screenplay 30 years ago better qualifies you to judge movies than me? Stupid again.<BR/><BR/>When you actually write more than a one-line review, we'll see if you can criticize something intelligently. Until then, you're a hypocrite for criticizing my reviews while not writing your own.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01478763837213733775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-40906452696118163892008-01-29T00:54:00.000-08:002008-01-29T00:54:00.000-08:00Writerfella here -- No one has said that COMAN...Writerfella here --<BR/> No one has said that COMANCHE MOON was "a superior work of filmmaking." Those words came from you, Rob. Apparently, no work of filmmaking ever could be 'superior' from your point of view, which just happens to come from your existence as a consumer, not an initiator. writerfella recognizes that particular syndrome, that if you were given a Native-themed production, your effort only would be a series of beautifully-filmed sunsets...<BR/>All Best<BR/>Russ Bates<BR/>'writerfella'writerfellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00111681906238053379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-35169706054626987982008-01-28T19:51:00.000-08:002008-01-28T19:51:00.000-08:00You didn't answer my question about whether Comanc...You didn't answer my question about whether <I>Comanche Moon</I> was a superior work of filmmaking. I guess you were too afraid, as usual.<BR/><BR/>Luckily, we're not studio executives, so we don't have to judge a TV series by its ratings. We can judge it by other criteria, such as whether it succeeds artistically.<BR/><BR/>Furthermore, studio execs never test a lower-quality series vs. a higher-quality version of the same series. However well <I>Comanche Moon</I> did, an improved version written by a talented third-grader might've done even better.<BR/><BR/>We do have evidence that mini-series can be well-written and still succeed in the ratings. Examples include <I>Roots</I>; <I>Rich Man, Poor Man</I>; and of course <I>Lonesome Dove</I>.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01478763837213733775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-16027323516043383132008-01-24T23:45:00.000-08:002008-01-24T23:45:00.000-08:00Writerfella here -- Ratings indeed may be 'nons...Writerfella here --<BR/> Ratings indeed may be 'nonsense,' but until someone devises a system that more economically and accurately delineates the audience numbers for televised fare, what cannot be ignored is that the industry has ratings and only ratings to go by when measuring success or failure in the marketplace. No brag, just fact...<BR/>AllBest<BR/>Russ Bates<BR/>'writerfella'writerfellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00111681906238053379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-62745463990525329812008-01-24T21:43:00.000-08:002008-01-24T21:43:00.000-08:00I don't think I ever said I expected a quality wor...I don't think I ever said I expected a quality work to earn the biggest ratings or box-office take. I know the masses want mass entertainment, and the market for quality work is relatively small.<BR/><BR/>If you think I said differently, quote me on it and then we'll discuss it. Until then, this is another of your unsubstantiated opinions and nothing more.<BR/><BR/>As for your idiotic conflating of ratings and quality, you've said it before and I can quote you on it. <A HREF="http://www.bluecorncomics.com/2007/05/bury-my-heart-movie-of-week.html" REL="nofollow">Here</A> is one of several examples:<BR/><BR/>"HBO rarely produces trash; whether or not BURY MY HEART... is any good totally is a matter of PERSONAL judgment, NOT personal pre-judgment; and pay-TV far is less of an investment risk than one might imagine. No one has gone broke by investing in an HBO property. Therefore, opinions are worth far less than is a Nielsen rating based on a measured quantity recorded electronically if only because the audience for a particular filmic entity always is larger than the number of 'critics' available anywhere nationwide."<BR/><BR/>Let's cut through this overwritten verbiage to extract the key point. According to you, whether <I>Bury My Heart</I> is "any good" (= quality) depends not on critical "opinions" but on a "Nielsen rating." So you've made this idiotic claim before and I've called you on it. And now I'm doing it again.<BR/><BR/>You implicitly made this claim about <I>Comanche Moon</I> when you said it "was a ratings and a financial success." So freakin' what? This is irrelevant to my comments about its quality unless you think ratings = quality.<BR/><BR/>Since your comment was irrelevant at best, try again. Do you have anything to say about the many flaws in <I>Comanche Moon</I>? Or do you think it was a superior work of filmmaking that didn't have any flaws worth noting? <BR/><BR/>Again, spare us your nonsense about ratings. Pick one of the two choices and <I>answer</I>. Or admit you can't.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01478763837213733775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-67330987309208585532008-01-24T21:16:00.000-08:002008-01-24T21:16:00.000-08:00Re "If writerfella truly were 'sniping at (his) in...Re "If writerfella truly were 'sniping at (his) intellectual superiors,' Rob, you wouldn't be in danger even of a flesh wound!" Right...because you couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with your pathetically weak, vague, and unsubstantiated arguments. I'm never in danger of losing a debate with you because you can't even engage in one. Your inability to cite a source, search Google, or crack a dictionary means you're unarmed in this one-sided duel of wits. Which is why you keep giving up and running away with your tail between your legs.<BR/><BR/>That <I>is</I> what you meant, isn't it?<BR/><BR/>Again, do you have anything to say about the many flaws in <I>Comanche Moon</I>? Or are you just sniping at your intellectual superiors, as usual?Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01478763837213733775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-53220216256779790082008-01-23T00:34:00.000-08:002008-01-23T00:34:00.000-08:00Writerfellahere -- If writerfella truly were 's...Writerfellahere --<BR/> If writerfella truly were 'sniping at (his) intellectual superiors,' Rob, you wouldn't be in danger even of a flesh wound! And no one said that ratings had anything to do with quality, except that you yourself have espoused that what you believe is 'quality' automatically would earn both accolades AND ratings. Better skip those infomercials about swampland this week...<BR/>All Best<BR/>Russ Bates<BR/>'writerfella'writerfellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00111681906238053379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-67527618302231409612008-01-22T10:33:00.000-08:002008-01-22T10:33:00.000-08:00"If I'd had to choose between Comanche Moon and, s..."If I'd had to choose between Comanche Moon and, say, a mediocre episode of Cashmere Mafia, the latter would've won easily." - rob<BR/><BR/>Comanche Mafia? Now that would be interesting.<BR/><BR/>"...I'm pretty sure a high-schooler could produce a better Western" - rob<BR/><BR/>Now, is it so bad, that if you had Ben Affleck wear a cowboy hat in "Gigli", "Gigli" would be the better Western?dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-75091165496705142772008-01-22T03:13:00.000-08:002008-01-22T03:13:00.000-08:00Yes, it's called hyperbole. It's a literary devic...Yes, it's called hyperbole. It's a literary device used to make a point.<BR/><BR/>I'm not sure about a pre-teen, but I'm pretty sure a high-schooler could produce a better Western. Of course, until we entrust a third-grader to make such a movie, we won't know for sure. <BR/><BR/>As usual, ratings have nothing to do with quality. Incredibly, you still haven't grasped this basic truism.<BR/><BR/>So viewers wanted more <I>Lonesome Dove</I> and, because of the writers' strike, didn't have anything else to watch. So what? <BR/><BR/>That's the main reason I watched the whole thing too. If I'd had to choose between <I>Comanche Moon</I> and, say, a mediocre episode of <I>Cashmere Mafia</I>, the latter would've won easily.<BR/><BR/>P.S. Do you have anything to say about the many flaws in <I>Comanche Moon</I>? Or are you just sniping at your intellectual superiors, as usual?Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01478763837213733775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-78209384599958047802008-01-22T01:53:00.000-08:002008-01-22T01:53:00.000-08:00Writerfella here -- Which singularly is overst...Writerfella here --<BR/> Which singularly is overstated and thus illogical, given that McMurtry and Ossana likely were entrusted with millions to write and to produce the entire project. COMANCHE MOON, in part due to the paucity of new material on network television, both was a ratings and a financial success. The LONESOME DOVE television saga now is over and done, period. Apparently there are some in this world who do not realize WHY real life lies outside the ranges of their own lives, knowledge, accomplishments, and opinions...<BR/>All Best<BR/>Russ Bates<BR/>'writerfella'writerfellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00111681906238053379noreply@blogger.com