P. Allen Smith Gardens
"The glories of winter" apparently includes a bit about "winter solstice for American Indians of long ago." I wasn't sure how an Indian winter solstice would tie in with the home and garden theme. But I was curious to see how P. Allen Smith, who apparently is the Martha Stewart of the gardening set, would handle Indians.
A couple of promos made it sound as if the Indian segment would be substantial. It wasn't. It was only two minutes long, or shorter than a typical TV news report. And it was about as superficial as you'd expect from a home and garden show.
Here's what the segment covered:
Dinosaurs and Indians
Smith starts the segment with a shot of a boy playing with toy dinosaurs. His narration goes:
For starters, the definition of prehistoric is:
What's the difference? You can record history in various ways besides writing: by carving petroglyphs, creating designs in baskets and pottery, or building monuments to gods or kings. The mounds themselves are arguably a form of recorded history.
When we use the word "prehistoric," we usually refer to an era of history. To a "time" or a "period," as the definition says. Being more specific is potentially confusing--e.g., Roman coins were found at a prehistoric British site. If dated items coexisted with the site, how can it be prehistoric?
In other words, "prehistoric" best describes humanity in general. Before people starting recording history with clay marks, the entire world was prehistoric. After that, the entire world entered the historic era.
Calling the oldest Indian cultures "prehistoric" is one thing, but I don't think I've heard anyone say "historic" Europeans met "prehistoric" Indians. Both peoples existed in historic times. European and Mesoamerican cultures both recorded these times in writing, and other Native cultures recorded them with drawings and symbols.
During Europe's Middle Ages, monks were often the only people who could read and write. Would anyone say monasteries were "historic" while illiterate towns and villages were "prehistoric"? No, probably not. Again, "prehistoric" usually applies to a broad period of time when no one was recording history, not to communities, regions, or countries without writing.
More faux pas
So the setup informs us that Indians were "prehistoric." The rest of the segment doesn't do any better.
Without explanation, their methods do sound strange. But a digging stick is just a hoe-like implement, and mixing crops in a field helps replenish the soil. Rolingson doesn't note that Indian farmers were generally as skilled as their European counterparts.
Toltec Mounds Archeological State Park
Mound groups, such as this one, were religious and social centers for people living in the surrounding countryside. The Toltec Mounds site had a small population, made up primarily of political and religious leaders of the community and their families. This center was occupied from about 600 to 1050 A.D.
So P. Allen Smith Gardens ends up portraying Indians as primitive people of the past--i.e., uncivilized savages. I shouldn't be surprised, but I thought this upscale show might do better. Anyone who has money to blow on home and garden decorations can afford a primer on Indian culture and history.
For more on the subject, see TV Shows Featuring Indians.
Below: A "very different" kind of home and garden?
"During Europe's Middle Ages, monks were often the only people who could read and write."
ReplyDeleteI'm afraid that's not true; the medieval Italian republics had high levels of literacy. You're using the same tactic that anti-Indian bigots employ; comparing the worst of one group to the very best of another group. For example you claim that Europe was one big feudal hell hole while Indians culture were egalitarian paradises. The problem with this lie is that Europe has had egalitarian cultures, the Norse, the Basques, the Gaels (the Manx Tynwald is one of the oldest examples of democracy on the planet) or the Italian republics; the dark ages myth is just that a myth. And then there's the issue of your racism; such as claiming that American violence is a 'white problem'.
Sigh. Since you're apparently illiterate on the subject of literacy in the Middle Ages, let's begin your education.
ReplyDeleteNote the word "most" in the following postings. To disprove them, you'll have to prove that most people (i.e., the majority) could read and write in the Middle Ages. Good luck with that.
http://beloit.edu/~joycee/HIST310-02.html
Most people in medieval Europe could not read or write; the course will examine the implications of that fact for religious and intellectual life, for power relationships, and for the development of visual imagery in the period.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Could_women_read_and_write_back_in_the_middle_ages
Could women read and write back in the middle ages?
Most women couldn't. Neither could most men.
Only the people with a lot of money learned it, as there were few teachers to teach it.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_social_role_of_art_in_the_Middles_Ages
Art was used by the Church as a teaching tool. People couldn't read or write so they couldn't read the Bible. To teach the Bible stories the Church used art.
http://www.historyforkids.org/learn/medieval/literature/index.htm
But even though books were so hard to produce, and most people couldn't read, there were still a lot of people writing books.
I'm afraid you stupidly missed the word "often" in the passage you quoted. It's a generalization and one exception doesn't disprove it.
ReplyDeleteBut then, you've demonstrated many times that you don't know what a generalization is. For more on that subject, see Education Stephen About Generalizations.
As I told you in Educating Tony About Genocide, I'm comparing average to average, not worst to best. Read my responses there and learn why you've lost another argument.
My racism? That's funny coming from the guy who thinks 1.3 billion Muslims want to conquer the world. I guess it takes one to know one, bigot.
Any claim I made about American violence is a) supported by the evidence and b) irrelevant here. Save it for a discussion about (duh) American violence.
As usual, you have nothing to say about the posting's subject. In this case, Indian mounds in P. Allen Smith Gardens. This is yet another of your pathetic attempts to prove your superiority to me. Better luck next time, twit.
"My racism? That's funny coming from the guy who thinks 1.3 billion Muslims want to conquer the world. I guess it takes one to know one, bigot."
ReplyDeleteI've never said anything like that; so I'm afraid you're lying and even I had posted something like that it wouldn't count as racism, muslims do not constitute a race. Yes I am critical of islam, but I don't for one second believe the xenophobic nonsense that bigots like Robert Spencer spew about muslims wanting to 'islamicize' the west.
"Any claim I made about American violence is a) supported by the evidence and b) irrelevant here. Save it for a discussion about (duh) American violence."
So you really don't see anything racist about claiming that violence is a white problem?
So you think I'm lying, eh? If you insist, I'll be glad to post your bigoted statements against Muslims.
ReplyDeleteIf you don't think 1.3 billion Muslim hatemongers want to Islamicize the world, tell us what you think their goal is. To continue hating our wealth and power while they let us live in peace and prosperity?!
I addressed your phony distinction between the religion and the people who practice it in Educating Stephen About Islam. Remind yourself how I kicked your butt on the subject.
I carefully called you a "bigot," buddy, not a racist. I know the difference even if you don't.
Of course, your rants against Obama and your frequent defense of white privilege have me wondering about your racial prejudice, too. But that's a matter for another day.
Do I see anything racist about claiming that violence is a white problem? No, not when I'm generalizing.
If you think I ever said violence is solely a white problem, quote me on it. Put up or shut up, mouth.
Here's the hard evidence of your bigotry, bigot:
ReplyDeleteStephen's bigotry against Muslims
Looks like you're the only liar here, Stephen. Read it and weep.