March 24, 2013

Barton: Indians fought to keep torturing

Christian Historian David Barton Defends The U.S. Genocide Of American Indians (Audio)

By Michael AllenThis week on his 'WallBuilders Live' radio show, debunked Christian historian David Barton compared Native Americans of the 1700s to modern day terrorists and explained why the U.S. had to commit genocide of Native Americans (audio below).

Barton said that Native Americans declared war on "all the white guys" because missionaries had tried to convince Indians to stop torturing their enemies.

Barton claimed the Indians refused to stop torturing, so "we had to go in and we had to destroy Indian tribes all over until they" signed a treaty, reports

Barton also claimed that the U.S. government had to kill buffalo in the west in order to destroy the Native Americans' supply line and bring the "Indians to their knees."

"It's got to be based on what the enemy responds [to,] you cannot reason with certain types of terrorists; and see that's why we could not get the Indians to the table to negotiate with us on treaties until after we had thoroughly whipped so many tribes," said Barton.

"What happened was the Indian leaders said 'they're trying to change our culture' and so they declared war on all the white guys and went after the white guys and that was King Philip's War. It was really trying to be civilized on one side and end torture and the Indians were threatened by the ending of torture and so we had to go in and we had to destroy Indian tribes all over until they said "oh, got the point, you're doing to us what we're doing to them, okay, we'll sign a treaty."

Viewers respond

People who watched Barton on YouTube responded with acerbic comments:I JUST LUV GUYS LIKE THIS IDIOT! It tells us heathen savages what CHRISTIAGONY is really all about...bigotry, racism and just downright ignorance!

Once upon a time I may have bought into this, but these facts can be disputed simply by recognizing the the TRUST of the AMERICAN INDIAN was always BROKEN by WHILE SETTLERS, and what they agreed with was taken for GRANTED ...and GREED, and IGNORANCE was the COMMON RULE OF THE DAY, and it seems this type of PROPAGATION still PERPETUATES IGNORANCE.

I am a Native American. Rather than using profanity to make an argument, I am going to make a logical rebuttal here. 1- The Native peoples of these lands had no interest in torturing anyone, certainly not like many Euro cultures have been so fond of historically doing. [Spanish Inquisition, Roman Empire crucifixions, drawing and quartering.] 2- Mr. Barton conveniently neglects to acknowledge that the Native peoples of this land were open to peaceable coexistence until greed ruined that idea.

What do you expect from a right wing Christian? First the president's the anti Christ, now the indigenous Americans are terrorists, what's next? I can't wait to hear what these bigots have to say next it's entertaining haha.

Christian Nazis.
Comment:  The main and perhaps only reason Indians ever "declared war" on white men was because white men broke their promises and treaties.

It's true white men wanted to destroy change every aspect of thousands of Native cultures, including some that occasionally practiced torture like Euro-Christians. But the idea that the Indians fought back in self-defense solely to protect the practice of torture is an obvious lie.

Also note that many tribes, especially in the East, signed treaties before the white men defeated them. Not after, before. Again, Barton is flat-out lying. Perhaps that's not surprising since most conservative Christians are liars and hypocrites.

For more on Barton, see Rick Perry Promotes Christian Bigotry. For more on Indians as terrorists, see Morris Mirror: Natives = "Terrorists" and Code Name: Geronimo to Be Released.

1 comment:

Anonymous said...

What is it with these right-wingers insisting the genocide against Indians was necessary?

As for the "terrorist" accusation, how many Indians sold guns to Osama bin Laden? How many iconic right-wingers did?