Writerfella here -- Maybe that's a sort of fair presentation, even if it is simple gainsaying. But "How Sharper Than A Serpent's Tooth" on The Animated STAR TREK beat out SESAME STREET anyway for the 1975 Children's Emmy. That should say something as well, even after all this time... All Best Russ Bates 'writerfella'
It says the animated Trek was sophisticated compared to most children's programming. ;-)
The Sesame Street presentation tells us that kids learn Indian stereotypes from the media. So does my Tonto Taught Us posting. The evidence is everywhere if you look for it.
Writerfella here -- Media do not teach stereotypes, they reinforce what already has been taught by parents, schools, churches, and the culture. Now, if it was said that future media writers and producers learn stereotypes and racist cliches from the pre-existing media they study, the entertainment industry would have to stand, guilty as charged... All Best Russ Bates 'writerfella'
Writerfella here -- What you are saying is that what you have seen as a consumer outmatches what writerfella has experienced as a media writer. It could be equivalent but as a superceding quantity, it would have to be proven. Question: who wrote the Sesame Street segment shown on the YouTube presentation? A Native? A non-Native? Significance, therefore, is determined by the answer. There also is the evaluative quantum that the segment itself either taught or reinforced the stereotypes it contained. By the time that children are of age enough to appreciate what media are presenting, did they learn the language and the culture and their understandings and appreciations from television, or did they learn those quantities in their homes from their parents? Just asking... All Best Russ Bates 'writerfella'
Many of the people I quoted in The Harm of Stereotyping: Facts and Evidence are Natives. A few dozen lifetimes of experience are encapsulated in their views. Feel free to contradict them if you can. Preferably with countervailing facts and evidence, that is, not openended questions.
I don't know who wrote the Sesame Street video. But people don't have to be Natives to know where they learned about Native stereotypes. You learned them from your parents and community, I gather. I and many other people, Native and non-Native alike, learned them from the media.
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Writerfella here --
Maybe that's a sort of fair presentation, even if it is simple gainsaying. But "How Sharper Than A Serpent's Tooth" on The Animated STAR TREK beat out SESAME STREET anyway for the 1975 Children's Emmy. That should say something as well, even after all this time...
All Best
Russ Bates
'writerfella'
It says the animated Trek was sophisticated compared to most children's programming. ;-)
The Sesame Street presentation tells us that kids learn Indian stereotypes from the media. So does my Tonto Taught Us posting. The evidence is everywhere if you look for it.
Writerfella here --
Media do not teach stereotypes, they reinforce what already has been taught by parents, schools, churches, and the culture. Now, if it was said that future media writers and producers learn stereotypes and racist cliches from the pre-existing media they study, the entertainment industry would have to stand, guilty as charged...
All Best
Russ Bates
'writerfella'
Wrong, according to the experts. It's more like the other way around. Parents, schools, churches, and the culture reinforce what the media teaches.
If it's your opinion vs. my evidence, I'll go with the evidence, thanks. From what I've seen, it proves my case overwhelmingly.
Writerfella here --
What you are saying is that what you have seen as a consumer outmatches what writerfella has experienced as a media writer. It could be equivalent but as a superceding quantity, it would have to be proven.
Question: who wrote the Sesame Street segment shown on the YouTube presentation? A Native? A non-Native? Significance, therefore, is determined by the answer. There also is the evaluative quantum that the segment itself either taught or reinforced the stereotypes it contained. By the time that children are of age enough to appreciate what media are presenting, did they learn the language and the culture and their understandings and appreciations from television, or did they learn those quantities in their homes from their parents?
Just asking...
All Best
Russ Bates
'writerfella'
Many of the people I quoted in The Harm of Stereotyping: Facts and Evidence are Natives. A few dozen lifetimes of experience are encapsulated in their views. Feel free to contradict them if you can. Preferably with countervailing facts and evidence, that is, not openended questions.
I don't know who wrote the Sesame Street video. But people don't have to be Natives to know where they learned about Native stereotypes. You learned them from your parents and community, I gather. I and many other people, Native and non-Native alike, learned them from the media.
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