May 12, 2009

"Two Peoples--One Struggle"

Parallels of discrimination

Discussion raises thought-provoking views, few solutions

By Elizabeth Hardin-Burrola
Two complicated historic relationships—one between Native Americans and the United States and the other between the Palestinians and the State of Israel—formed the framework of a thought-provoking public forum on Saturday evening at UNM-Gallup.

“Two Peoples—One Struggle,” a panel discussion that was organized to explore possible parallels between the dispossession and colonization of Native Americans and Palestinians, attracted an audience of nearly 50 people who filled a university classroom to capacity and who stayed beyond the event’s scheduled two-hour time limit.
What the speakers said:Okrent said she believes some of the language the government of Israel uses to justify its policy toward Palestinians is similar to the language the United States used to justify the policy of Manifest Destiny in its dealings with Native Americans.

Abdeljawad agreed that Native Americans, seeing some similarities in the two historical conflicts, would recognize they’ve “been down this path” that Palestinians are now on.

Historian and author Nez-Denetdale agreed policies like Manifest Destiny have been used around the world, including the Middle East.
Comment:  Before DMarks tells us that Indians should sympathize with Israelis and not Palestinians, let me cut in. Some Indians do sympathize with the Israelis, but I think more sympathize with the Palestinians.

Why? First, they understand the history of the region as well as you and I do, if not better. Second, they know historic injustices and violations of international law when they see them. And they see them in Israel's illegal occupation of the West Bank and illegal settlements.

For more on the subject, see The Indian-Palestinian Connection.

Below:  "Palestinian-American Jamal Abdeljawad address a crowd during a panel discussion at UNM-G Saturday evening. The multi-national panel compared the struggles of Palestinians to Native American history." (© 2009 Gallup Independent/Cable Hoover)

3 comments:

Stephen said...

Interesting how you whine on and on about Israel and the US and yet you seem to have no problem with Iran, Saudi Arabia, Cuba etc. And the 'Palestian people' fairy tale which you spout is a myth:

http://www.masada2000.org/been-had.html

Stephen said...

"Comment: Before DMarks tells us that Indians should sympathize with Israelis and not Palestinians, let me cut in."

Oh look everybody Rob's trying to 'call out' dmarks, like a good lil' 'net tough guy, how cute.

"Some Indians do sympathize with the Israelis, but I think more sympathize with the Palestinians."

How convenient that all 'these indians' happen to share your twisted beliefs. Also how long ago did they hire you to be their spokesperson?

"Why? First, they understand the history of the region as well as you and I do, if not better."

Your posts indicate that you know next to nothing about it, not to mention the nonsense you spewed about Islam. Also I've read quite a few ignorant and reprehensible posts about the Israeli-Arab conflict; for example if I remember correctly Russell Means has made statements of support for the PLO.

"they know historic injustices "

How convenient that you failed to mention the long history of oppression Jews have endured under the second class 'dhimmi' status.

"And they see them in Israel's illegal occupation of the West Bank and illegal settlements."

MYTH

"Israel "occupies" the West Bank."

FACT

In politics words matter and, unfortunately, the misuse of words applying to the Arab-Israeli conflict has shaped perceptions to Israel's disadvantage. As in the case of the term "West Bank," the word "occupation" has been hijacked by those who wish to paint Israel in the harshest possible light. It also gives apologists a way to try to explain away terrorism as "resistance to occupation," as if the women and children killed by homicide bombers in buses, pizzerias, and shopping malls were responsible for the plight of the Arabs. Given the negative connotation of an "occupier," it is not surprising that Arab spokespersons use the word or some variation as many times as possible when interviewed by the press. The more accurate description of the territories in Judea and Samaria is "disputed" territories.

In fact, most other disputed territories around the world are not referred to as being occupied by the party that controls them. This is true, for example, of the hotly contested region of Kashmir.

Occupation typically refers to foreign control of an area that was under the previous sovereignty of another state. In the case of the West Bank, there was no legitimate sovereign because the territory had been illegally occupied by Jordan from 1948 to 1967. Though the Palestinians never demanded an end to Jordanian occupation and the creation of a Palestinian state, only two countries — Britain and Pakistan — recognized Jordan's action.

It is also important to distinguish the acquisition of territory in a war of conquest as opposed to a war of self-defense. A nation that attacks another and then retains the territory it conquers is an occupier. One that gains territory in the course of defending itself is not in the same category. And this is the situation with Israel, which specifically told King Hussein that if Jordan stayed out of the 1967 war, Israel would not fight against him. Hussein ignored the warning and attacked Israel in 1967. While fending off the assault and driving out the invading Jordanian troops, Israel came to control the West Bank. Had Hussein heeded the warning, the Palestinians of the West Bank would in all likelihood be happily living as Jordanian citizens.

By rejecting Arab demands that Israel be required to withdraw from all the territories won in 1967, the UN Security Council in Resolution 242 acknowledged that Israel was entitled to claim at least part of these lands for new defensible borders.

Since Oslo, the case for tagging Israel as an occupying power has been further weakened by the fact that Israel transferred virtually all civilian authority to the Palestinian Authority. Israel retained the power to control its own external security and that of its citizens, but 98 percent of the Palestinian population in the West Bank and Gaza came under the PA's authority. The extent to which Israel has been forced to maintain a military presence in the territories has been governed by the Palestinians' unwillingness to end violence against Israel. The best way to end the dispute over the territories is for the Palestinians to fulfill their obligations under the Oslo agreements and stop the terror and negotiate a final settlement.

Rob said...

I'm ignorant because I don't accept Israel's illegal occupation of Palestinian territories and immoral oppression of the Palestinian people? How stupid can you get?

For more on the subject, see Educating Stephen About Palestinians and Educating Stephen About Israel's Occupation.