"Redskins" all over the continent?

In the comments to Response from Redskin Model, an anonymous person reported a conversation with "Mr. Redskin." I gather Mr. Redskin is some big (red) cheese with Redskin magazine--perhaps its publisher or founder. Anyway, here's part of what Anonymous had to say:when mr. redskinny was telling me about the mag he said the title itself would be controversial .. i had no clue that ppl put redskin up there with nigger .. he said its a states thing .. then i recalled how before they were, still are, trying to change the name of sports teams .. and mascots .. which i thought was retarded to begin with .. who gives a schmidt .. theres streets and cities named after redskins all over this continent .. theres a fire hose company that has a trademark on the name redskin for its brand of fire hose .. saying redskin is alot different then saying, indian - native - aboriginal - wahoo - wagon burner - savage .. because they're all names that whitey associates us redskins with anyways .. we're not indians .. we are not from india .. Indian is NOT accepted by most .. we're not natives - thats what the national geographic channel calls ppl that live in mud huts .. and what the fuck is aboriginal anyways? - when you put AB in front of normal it denotes bad things .. i have no idea what wahoo is .. wagon burner is just mean .. and savage is a complete opposite .. we're the kindest caring ppl ..

redskin goes further back .. before whitey .. the word redskin is so old - onekwen:tara - means redskin in mohawk .. it comes with a story, a part of our oral teachings .. the medicine wheel for example - representing the people of the earth as four colours - red - black - yellow - white .. iroquois, cree, navajo, aztecs, ojibwes, inuits, bloods, hurons, tutelas, seminoles, and etc. - all red .. greek, jewish, german, russian, irish, scottish, and etc. are all white .. all asians are yellow .. all africans and reggae listening jamaicans are blacks ..

your a smart boy schmidt you understand ..Comment:  I sure hope Anonymous isn't a writer for Redskin magazine. His or her inability to spell, capitalize, or punctuate correctly might explain why we haven't heard anything about the magazine since its inception.

Anonymous admits ignorance

"i had no clue that ppl put redskin up there with nigger"...thank you very much for admitting your ignorance in black and white. It saves me the trouble of having to point it out. I wish everyone would be so helpful...it would save a lot of time.

Here, read up on the subject, Anonymous. Educate yourself:

R-word = n-word
The Redskin-macaca connection
"Redskins" not as bad as "N-----s," but close

At least your "Mr. Redskin" knew the magazine name would be controversial. You didn't even know that much. You "forgot" that Natives routinely protest being stereotyped as sports mascots? And you've never heard of Chief Wahoo?

Indians don't like "Indians"?

Moreover, you think most Indians object to the word "Indian"? I could introduce you to a few thousand Indians who could set you straight about that. In fact, your assertion is flatly wrong--as you'd know if you read "American Indian" vs. "Native American."

You don't use "Indians," "Natives," or "Aboriginals" to describe your ethnic group? Then what term do you use? Please don't tell me it's "Redskins." I'd love to hear from all the, er, indigenous people of the Americas who consider "Redskin" the preferred term for their ethnicity.

Wow. Is there any aspect of Indian affairs you aren't clueless about, Anonymous? If so, it isn't obvious.

Redskin the fire hose

There's a Redskin brand of fire hose? I checked and you're right, but...so what? It's obviously called "Redskin" because fire hoses have a red rubber skin. And not because it resembles a Native American.

In other words, these are two unrelated uses of the word "redskin." One is an ethnic slur referring to Natives; one isn't. Try again and come up with something relevant this time.

There are streets and cities all over the continent named after the word "redskin"? Uhh...I don't think so. So far you've listed exactly one item--a fire hose--that uses the word "redskin." Give us a second item so we know you're not lying outright.

"Redskin" of Mohawk origin?

I've studied and written about the origin of the word "redskin." No one has ever claimed it came from a pre-Columbian Mohawk word. In particular, no Native has ever claimed that.

So before Europeans "discovered" America, the Mohawks knew about white, black, and Asian people? And they reserved the color red for themselves? Are you absolutely sure this wasn't a post-contact decision?

Many tribes came up with stories to explain the different races after they learned about them. But I've never heard of a tribe that knew about the races in advance. If the Mohawks also predicted world wars, computers, and moon rockets, they should join Nostradamus, Edgar Cayce, and Sylvia Browne in the pantheon of prognosticators.

Conclusion

I suggest you take up the origin of "redskin" with lexicographers and your fellow Indians. You know, the people who consider the word an ethnic slur? When you convince them that they're wrong and you're right, then I'll take you seriously. Until then, no.

Below:  Mr. Redskin mad because Rob criticize his magazine title. Boo-hoo, Mr. Redskin!